tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post771926209001651567..comments2024-02-15T05:45:04.193-06:00Comments on Cwyn's Death By Tea: Tea and DehydrationCwynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17990034926886208526noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-52174792208347831632017-02-05T14:58:27.811-06:002017-02-05T14:58:27.811-06:00I probably drink more tea than anyone should. A li...I probably drink more tea than anyone should. A liter of sheng a day. That doesn't include morning hongcha.Cwynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17990034926886208526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-85404750733053127582017-01-03T06:35:19.022-06:002017-01-03T06:35:19.022-06:00Hi Cwyn
In the U.K, flour has to be fortified (by ...Hi Cwyn<br />In the U.K, flour has to be fortified (by law) by the adding of trace amounts of iron and three other supplements, including calcium. Without this fortification the diet of some sectors of the population, particularly women of child bearing age, would be deficient in iron. With the addition of iron to flour, it is thought that the vast majority of the population (about 98% I think) get at least enough of these essential nutrients.<br />The regulations were introduced after the war when, by popular demand, highly refined flour replaced less refined products in the national diet. The problem is essentially one of the industrialisation of the the food production process and a move away from natural 'whole' foods.<br />For many people a solution is to eat more products naturally rich in iron, such as whole grains and some green veggies. Of course, cost and other dietary conditions such as gluten intolerance may be a problem, and there will always be some individuals for whom iron deficiencies are likely and blood tests are advisable. However, I think that for most of us we needn't worry if we eat a good, balanced diet with plenty of unprocessed foods.<br />Perhaps our motto should be 'Drink Tea - Eat Greens'<br />Adphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07107686680929928600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-88787987540794224322017-01-03T00:25:49.225-06:002017-01-03T00:25:49.225-06:00Another interesting article Cwyn. My understanding...Another interesting article Cwyn. My understanding is that tea is not a diuretic. See the study referenced here: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/is-caffeinated-tea-dehydrating/. Researchers gave subjects equal amounts of either black tea or water, and measured their output, finding no meaningful difference between the two. Of course a sheng that makes you sweat is another story. I'm curious what makes you think tea is generally dehydrating - Is there something you know that I don't?a bad pastyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04188832948993238877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-46143029971170984972017-01-02T16:03:06.892-06:002017-01-02T16:03:06.892-06:00And which beans contain iron, Del Monte or is Bus...And which beans contain iron, Del Monte or is Bush's better? Does the soil matter and how much, southern or northern? A never-ending rabbit hole of questions.<br /><br />Here is the big picture, which really matters in my opinion: menstruating and pregnant women can be, and often are anemic and THIS is determined by a blood panel. This is what matters. The big picture is not dying as Brittany Murphy did. <br /><br />And I do not wish curative iron supplements on anyone, and hope I never need take one again. They wreck the stomach and intestines with pain, and the taste of iron in the back of the mouth upwards from the stomach is present all the time. Sheng puerh is a no-go for the few hours of relief a day that a meal provides, maybe no tea at all and not just because of inhibition but because the stomach can't take it.<br /><br />I would do anything at all to get iron in a myriad of ways to avoid taking iron supplements. We know that unglazed and non-enameled cookware leaches iron. It is one way of obtaining trace iron. We know that unglazed clay teapots leach minerals as well. Foods are the most important. I prefer any of these to avoid taking supplements again, wouldn't wish them on any woman but better than death in the end.Cwynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17990034926886208526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-24178784909035378622017-01-02T10:49:51.697-06:002017-01-02T10:49:51.697-06:00Glad the adorable fluff pile is doing better! And ...Glad the adorable fluff pile is doing better! And thanks for mentioning that magnesium spray, I need to get me some so I don't have to swallow those massive nasty pills! UmbralQueenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13203642284406048931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-53621343009432579342017-01-02T06:58:55.895-06:002017-01-02T06:58:55.895-06:00It looks like tea polyphenols inhibits heme iron a...It looks like tea polyphenols inhibits heme iron absorbtion too: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3306181/<br /><br />The tea adwisory tell us: "Tea drinking mainly influences the absorption of non-haem iron as haem iron is relatively unaffected by tea." <br /><br />www.teaadvisorypanel.com/assets/.../tea_iron_absorption.doc<br /><br />Well, the question is, what means "relatively unaffected". <br /><br />But thank you for the info, the difference between the impact of tea on the absorption of heme and non-heme iron is new to me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11465767172529563465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-88758026160738939102017-01-01T17:55:14.740-06:002017-01-01T17:55:14.740-06:00Happy to read your kitten is feeling better!Happy to read your kitten is feeling better!teaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14658171947622178993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-41893489724674343552017-01-01T16:04:37.249-06:002017-01-01T16:04:37.249-06:00Iron absorption affected by tea is non-heme iron. ...Iron absorption affected by tea is non-heme iron. Women and vegans can be deficient in heme iron, derived from meat, which tea does not inhibit. The same questions about minerals from clay can be asked of any Yixing or other clay pot. Trace amounts do leach over time. <br /><br />Total iron is impacted by everything consumed over the course of the day. We eat foods in addition to drinking tea. The big picture, the whole, is determined by a doctor doing a blood panel. If you are a woman you need to make sure the whole diet gives what you need. Tea pot minerals are certainly no harm to anyone.Cwynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17990034926886208526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-36398157270668391812017-01-01T06:15:19.388-06:002017-01-01T06:15:19.388-06:001) How much iron is leeched from a pot in a sesion...1) How much iron is leeched from a pot in a sesion? <br />2) How high is the absorbability of that non-organic bounded iron from the pot?<br />3) How much from the small ammout od poorly absorbable iron from the pot can you absorb, when 80 % of it is blocked by the tea polyphenols?<br /><br />Therefore i think, that iron from the pot has prakticaly zero influence on your daily iron income. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11465767172529563465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-87534596625439576862017-01-01T05:57:54.361-06:002017-01-01T05:57:54.361-06:00Then I assume you don't believe any clay pot s...Then I assume you don't believe any clay pot such as Yixing adds minerals to tea, but in fact they do. Tea is slightly acidic and over time draws minerals from the pot in the process of giving back. The effect may indeed be slight, however a vegan requires 1.8x daily iron through diet or other means compared to meat eaters. We lose small amounts of iron in feces, urine and through skin as well. A heavy menstruating woman is likely to supplement.Cwynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17990034926886208526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373256628108442713.post-887119017884201202017-01-01T05:02:59.774-06:002017-01-01T05:02:59.774-06:00Hi Cwyn, remember, that the polyphenols from tea (...Hi Cwyn, remember, that the polyphenols from tea (and cofee) blocks more that 80% of iron intake. I doubt, that iron leached from a jug has any effect.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11465767172529563465noreply@blogger.com